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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Alas the removal of middle (read State Governments), I wish it was tomorrow, but can&#039;t see it happening in our life time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Alas the removal of middle (read State Governments), I wish it was tomorrow, but can&#8217;t see it happening in our life time.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia - I would agree 100 per cent with you on this. Given the atrocious position our deficit now finds itself in the governments of the day have to start making the hard decisions. I think that many would be most surprised by the numbers of residents in Mosman already on reverse mortgages. 

I also believe we are not that far away from the total abolition of middle governments either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia &#8211; I would agree 100 per cent with you on this. Given the atrocious position our deficit now finds itself in the governments of the day have to start making the hard decisions. I think that many would be most surprised by the numbers of residents in Mosman already on reverse mortgages. </p>
<p>I also believe we are not that far away from the total abolition of middle governments either.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M Jackson - Your one-eyed, myopic tirade has brought me out of my retirement on this subject!  I agree that AT THIS POINT IN TIME a reverse mortgage would not make sense (but how about in 10 or 20 years&#039; time?).  Instead, a Mosman pensioner paper millionaire could sell the family home (I know it&#039;s not worth what it was three years ago, but it&#039;s worth a lot more than it was bought for in 1965), downsize, and release the capital for their own support rather than being subsidised by taxpayers.  

This is a simplistic response because I do not have the time, nor is this the appropriate forum, to cite a host of policy initiatives and funding formulas that could be developed to unlock the capital from the homes of pensioner paper millionaires to fund their retirement.  It is inequitable and immoral that the taxpayer subsidises pensioner paper millionaires, consequently preserving the full inheritance of the pensioner&#039;s beneficiaries.

And with that, M Jackson et al, I shall retire from further posts on this subject regardless of the degree to which you may goad me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M Jackson &#8211; Your one-eyed, myopic tirade has brought me out of my retirement on this subject!  I agree that AT THIS POINT IN TIME a reverse mortgage would not make sense (but how about in 10 or 20 years&#8217; time?).  Instead, a Mosman pensioner paper millionaire could sell the family home (I know it&#8217;s not worth what it was three years ago, but it&#8217;s worth a lot more than it was bought for in 1965), downsize, and release the capital for their own support rather than being subsidised by taxpayers.  </p>
<p>This is a simplistic response because I do not have the time, nor is this the appropriate forum, to cite a host of policy initiatives and funding formulas that could be developed to unlock the capital from the homes of pensioner paper millionaires to fund their retirement.  It is inequitable and immoral that the taxpayer subsidises pensioner paper millionaires, consequently preserving the full inheritance of the pensioner&#8217;s beneficiaries.</p>
<p>And with that, M Jackson et al, I shall retire from further posts on this subject regardless of the degree to which you may goad me.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 14:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team

Haven&#039;t seen it covered in recent times, so would appreciate some thoughts on the average &quot;time on market&quot;. Again, I am certain the stats will be less than robust, but my study of the display advertising suggests that whilst the quantum and value of property on the market seems open to debate, it seems very clear that those that DO make it to market seem to be staying there much longer than prior to the previous twelve months or so.</description>
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<p>Haven&#8217;t seen it covered in recent times, so would appreciate some thoughts on the average &#8220;time on market&#8221;. Again, I am certain the stats will be less than robust, but my study of the display advertising suggests that whilst the quantum and value of property on the market seems open to debate, it seems very clear that those that DO make it to market seem to be staying there much longer than prior to the previous twelve months or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Readers,

M Jackson may have a valid point here. It is easy to talk a market up but where is the demand coming from? I really cannot see how property prices cannot do anything but fall. The very people that completely missed what was coming over the past few years are the same people now proclaiming that we have found the bottom and we are now into the recovery. Sorry, we have 15 years of relentless partying, goverment-fuelled free money, a system where debt was the same as earned money, and we have now had a systemic collapse. And people think after a few months that&#039;s it
?  Dont confuse a euphoric bear market rally with the underlying fundamentals which show that the rules have now changed. Where, exactly, is the money going to come from to create the new growth? Surely you cannot all think it is that simple. This thing is playing out and most people will be faked out thinking that its all sunshine out there. 

The very people that fuelled the boom in Sydney upper-end property are the ones that were leveraged and predominate the finance industry. One and one  equals two. How hard can it be to see what will happen now?</description>
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<p>M Jackson may have a valid point here. It is easy to talk a market up but where is the demand coming from? I really cannot see how property prices cannot do anything but fall. The very people that completely missed what was coming over the past few years are the same people now proclaiming that we have found the bottom and we are now into the recovery. Sorry, we have 15 years of relentless partying, goverment-fuelled free money, a system where debt was the same as earned money, and we have now had a systemic collapse. And people think after a few months that&#8217;s it<br />
?  Dont confuse a euphoric bear market rally with the underlying fundamentals which show that the rules have now changed. Where, exactly, is the money going to come from to create the new growth? Surely you cannot all think it is that simple. This thing is playing out and most people will be faked out thinking that its all sunshine out there. </p>
<p>The very people that fuelled the boom in Sydney upper-end property are the ones that were leveraged and predominate the finance industry. One and one  equals two. How hard can it be to see what will happen now?</p>
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		<title>By: M Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia,

Are you for real? Apart from being a smartass, you are also pretty naive. Reverse mortgage. Oh yeah, that&#039;s a brilliant idea. How ridiculous :

A falling property market ; increasing debt ; no chance to generate income to pay it back. I could take you through the mechanics but perhaps it is way over your head. great idea in a bull market, but the minute the capital growth stops, it makes no sense. It is a one way bet, just like the long beta play every second Aussie has been on for the past 15 years via the share market. Compound that with sharp rises in unemployment and an environment where credit is frozen and debt is now toxic...and its game over for stupid products like reverse mortgages. You can add in the fact that pensioners have been hit by rates heading towards zero, dividend payments being cut and a Labour Govt now hell bent on squeezing them to get as much as they can to pay for that useless stimulus package that is no nothing more than a long terms recipe for a banana republic...

SO, PATRICIA, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY IN RESPONSE??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia,</p>
<p>Are you for real? Apart from being a smartass, you are also pretty naive. Reverse mortgage. Oh yeah, that&#8217;s a brilliant idea. How ridiculous :</p>
<p>A falling property market ; increasing debt ; no chance to generate income to pay it back. I could take you through the mechanics but perhaps it is way over your head. great idea in a bull market, but the minute the capital growth stops, it makes no sense. It is a one way bet, just like the long beta play every second Aussie has been on for the past 15 years via the share market. Compound that with sharp rises in unemployment and an environment where credit is frozen and debt is now toxic&#8230;and its game over for stupid products like reverse mortgages. You can add in the fact that pensioners have been hit by rates heading towards zero, dividend payments being cut and a Labour Govt now hell bent on squeezing them to get as much as they can to pay for that useless stimulus package that is no nothing more than a long terms recipe for a banana republic&#8230;</p>
<p>SO, PATRICIA, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY IN RESPONSE??</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 05:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For M Jackson - I have been reading about these derivatve markets with both interest and amazement. So I will write about this very topic next week and the huge flaws in the process - which are yet to be debated (until next week) :) Short selling Sydney house prices? A world first for the ASX indeed and it has disaster written all over it - I look forward to your responses then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For M Jackson &#8211; I have been reading about these derivatve markets with both interest and amazement. So I will write about this very topic next week and the huge flaws in the process &#8211; which are yet to be debated (until next week) <img src='http://www.rwm.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Short selling Sydney house prices? A world first for the ASX indeed and it has disaster written all over it &#8211; I look forward to your responses then.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always interesting to read the variations of public opinion - they certainly are differing. Personally, I believe that in our property markets we have seen the worst with Q4/08 and Q1/09 being the hardest by a long shot. It is all about about confidence and purchasers whilst still in conservative mode are now engaging with property markets.

Not sure how many watched Stateline last night with Quentin Dempster interviewing Nathan Rees. Unlike his Federal counterparts who had a record 21 leaks, when asked about our state Budget in two week&#039;s time he went on the defensive. 

Rees - &quot;No I&#039;m not going to speculate. I&#039;m not gonna make any indications. Suffice to say that the $4.8 billion in reduction of GST revenue is a difficult issue for us to deal with.&quot;

He is right there given that in economic growth and record tax receipts they could not deal with it then. Now broke - it will be a very hard tax on the taxpayers of NSW. We can expect new taxes and old taxes being increased - this will be a shocker! Talk of another new annual tax on the principal place of residence is getting stronger. One can only assume this further explains why Ruddy Fantastic is distancing himself from the Rees Government at Fort Crumble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always interesting to read the variations of public opinion &#8211; they certainly are differing. Personally, I believe that in our property markets we have seen the worst with Q4/08 and Q1/09 being the hardest by a long shot. It is all about about confidence and purchasers whilst still in conservative mode are now engaging with property markets.</p>
<p>Not sure how many watched Stateline last night with Quentin Dempster interviewing Nathan Rees. Unlike his Federal counterparts who had a record 21 leaks, when asked about our state Budget in two week&#8217;s time he went on the defensive. </p>
<p>Rees &#8211; &#8220;No I&#8217;m not going to speculate. I&#8217;m not gonna make any indications. Suffice to say that the $4.8 billion in reduction of GST revenue is a difficult issue for us to deal with.&#8221;</p>
<p>He is right there given that in economic growth and record tax receipts they could not deal with it then. Now broke &#8211; it will be a very hard tax on the taxpayers of NSW. We can expect new taxes and old taxes being increased &#8211; this will be a shocker! Talk of another new annual tax on the principal place of residence is getting stronger. One can only assume this further explains why Ruddy Fantastic is distancing himself from the Rees Government at Fort Crumble.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 01:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - Duh, take out a reverse mortgage or sell it and down-size, thus freeing up a large chunk of capital to apply to their own support.  This is my final posting on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; Duh, take out a reverse mortgage or sell it and down-size, thus freeing up a large chunk of capital to apply to their own support.  This is my final posting on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia,

So what does an old person who just happens to have lived in Mosman all their life, but has no income, no cashflow yet a property that has increased substantially in value, supposed to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia,</p>
<p>So what does an old person who just happens to have lived in Mosman all their life, but has no income, no cashflow yet a property that has increased substantially in value, supposed to do?</p>
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